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  • Sandra Law updated the event EDNA Fall Meeting in the group Teaching and Learning at Athabasca October 13, 2016 - 3:35pm
  • Sandra Law added the event EDNA Fall Meeting in the group Teaching and Learning at Athabasca October 13, 2016 - 3:35pm
  • Jon Dron commented on a bookmark The Bonus Effect - Alfie Kohn October 8, 2016 - 8:36pm
    Excellent! The word 'mandatory' has a tendency to raise my hackles whenever it is mentioned in the context of learning, though I have nothing against paper-based portfolios per se. For some kinds of learning, for some learners, in some contexts,...
  • Rita Zuba Prokopetz commented on a bookmark The Bonus Effect - Alfie Kohn October 8, 2016 - 11:55am
    Thank you! I will have to ask administration at my work not to rely so much on rubrics (after I am able to convince them that the mandatory paper-based portfolios are obsolete and not conducive to learning...). Thank you!
  • Jon Dron commented on a bookmark The Bonus Effect - Alfie Kohn October 8, 2016 - 11:51am
    Thanks Rita - really interesting! Yes, feedback is not just great but central to all learning: given by others in a generous spirit, it can be motivating, empowering, affirming, and demonstrative of caring. Grades, however, are judgements, and...
  • Noureen K published a blog post Website- free tools, ideas in the group COMP 266 October 8, 2016 - 10:16am
    Here is a great website I found for ideas or free tools: https://visualhierarchy.co/shop/product-category/freebies/ http://www.webaward.org/winners_detail.asp?yr=all&award_level=best&category=School
  • Noureen K published a blog post Mockup Tool October 8, 2016 - 10:13am
    Hi Everyone, I used powermockup to create my mockups. I simply had to intall it as a add on to my powerpoint. Although it didn't give me access to all the tools available, what was available was adequate for my  need. The trial version can...
  • Rita Zuba Prokopetz commented on a bookmark The Bonus Effect - Alfie Kohn October 8, 2016 - 7:42am
    Hello again, As mentioned in several occasions, I often read your posts; however, time prevents me from commenting on many of them. This time, however, you have mentioned an instructional strategy I happen to be writing about for the past three...
  • Jon Dron bookmarked Multiclick October 6, 2016 - 1:01am
    This is great fun and quite fascinating - do try it out. You get to click on a rectangle, then see where other people have clicked - many thousands of them. This system is incredibly similar to part of an experiment on collective social navigation...
  • Jon Dron bookmarked The Bonus Effect - Alfie Kohn October 5, 2016 - 6:14pm
    Alfie Kohn in brilliant form once again, reaffirming his place as the most eloquent writer on motivation this century, this time taking on the 'bonus effect' - the idea that giving rewards makes those rewards themselves more desirable while...
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    • Jon Dron October 8, 2016 - 11:51am

      Thanks Rita - really interesting!

      Yes, feedback is not just great but central to all learning: given by others in a generous spirit, it can be motivating, empowering, affirming, and demonstrative of caring. Grades, however, are judgements, and (though we can soften the bad effects through finer granularity, constructive alignment, and learner involvement in establishing the criteria) are fundamentally extrinsic, controlling, and disempowering. Grades are an assertion of teacher power that actually have much less than no value to learners, because they diminish or destroy the love of learning something for its own sake. Teaching should be about lighting fires, not quenching them.

      I largely share the opinions expressed here - https://bullshit.ist/why-i-threw-away-my-rubrics-323e51a7aa49?gi=fe3c2845e1fe -both in getting rid of grades and in losing the rubrics. There's no harm in rubric-like advice for helping learners figure out what kind of things are normal and expected in a new subject: that can be useful scaffolding. It's even OK to use rubrics as a frame to help guide feedback, as long as it is recognized that learners can and do go far beyond whatever is written in them, and they do not serve to constrain feedback. When I mention this, many teachers follow through with the question 'but how can we be fair?' or 'how can learners know what to do to be successful?'. Such questions reveal the fundamental problem in sharp relief: that's just another way of reiterating that the point of learning is to get points and comply with teacher expectations. If teachers believe that, what hope is there for students?

       

    • Rita Zuba Prokopetz October 8, 2016 - 11:55am

      Thank you!

      I will have to ask administration at my work not to rely so much on rubrics (after I am able to convince them that the mandatory paper-based portfolios are obsolete and not conducive to learning...).

      Thank you!

    • Jon Dron October 8, 2016 - 8:36pm

      Excellent! The word 'mandatory' has a tendency to raise my hackles whenever it is mentioned in the context of learning, though I have nothing against paper-based portfolios per se. For some kinds of learning, for some learners, in some contexts, they make good sense. Like most things in learning, it ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it.

      I'll be interested in Jennifer Hurley's follow-up to her 'no rubrics' article because the one thing she leaves unsaid is how she deals with the (still mandated) final grading. That's my problem too, and it's quite tricky to solve fairly.

  • Dr. Mark Dimirsky replied on the discussion topic A tutor's perspective in the group Teaching and Learning at Athabasca October 4, 2016 - 5:42pm
    Thanks Jon and Richard.  I agree that the current pay system, the lack of budget and the need to watch what is said to avoid labor and personnel (also personal) problems are true barriers.  Not every tutor wants to be more involved and...
  • Richard Huntrods replied on the discussion topic A tutor's perspective in the group Teaching and Learning at Athabasca October 4, 2016 - 12:41pm
    Jon, Sadly, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. Many of us have fought to include the tutors in a more active way, but it always comes down to the issues you have mentioned above regarding methods of payment. It is also hard to...
  • Jon Dron replied on the discussion topic A tutor's perspective in the group Teaching and Learning at Athabasca October 4, 2016 - 12:29pm
    Great points, Mark. I would love to involve tutors/academic experts much more in all that we do, not just in course design but in overall planning of programs and in the learning community as a whole. I have been wanting (not yet done) to make...
  • Viorel Tabara bookmarked How open source delivers for government in the group Open Source Software October 3, 2016 - 6:14pm
    Note that in their view, proprietary solutions are "legacy". A simple example of how the move toward OSS can improve IT architecture is by thinking about database backups. In the legacy regime of licensed closed source software, each license of...
  • Oscar Lin published a blog post Scared of superintelligent AI? in the group Research group on MultiAgent Systems October 3, 2016 - 10:29am
    Just for sharing: http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_can_we_build_ai_without_losing_control_over_it?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2016-10-01&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image 
  • Angie Abdou commented on the blog MAIS 606 week 4 blog October 3, 2016 - 8:12am
    Also, Bonnie, I am only grading/reading 5 blogs per student. We're still in the first half of the course and you've already done 3 (good work!). I'd suggest you take a break from blogging and focus on the critical review for the next few weeks. Come...
  • Angie Abdou commented on the blog MAIS 606 week 4 blog October 3, 2016 - 8:10am
    Good work, Bonnie. Interestingly, I would suggest you work on varying your sentence structure - which is a weakness you yourself note at the end. Angie