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  • To check my understanding then, and none of these are ideas I'd stake my life on as true, just a bunch of hypotheses that I've tried to sort to be sure I understand the larger concepts -- If I was 'doing' archaeology at OOB, I might...
  • in a way, OOB was perhaps doing genealogy Huh. Yeah, you're right, definitely. In the first of the Love articles above, for example, she decribes how OOB, and the lesbian identity and sex radical feminism it represented, retrieved the...
  • The passage from "A Gentle Angry People" that suggests a direction for a geneological approach is this one; its broader theme, relevant to much of OOB's content, is the possibility that lesbians might be just like straight people, however exciting...
  • Thanks -- I will check out the Foucault/feminism book. I am also thinking that the histories of radical feminism must already be written, but my search terms just aren't turning them up. It seems ludicrous that they wouldn't already be...
  • Hm. Yeah, I can see how the potential, or lack of potential, for political action or recognition would make a very important qualification to my critique of bare life. Taking the panhandler image as an example (the iconic image of Holocaust...
  • I have a lot of trouble with "bare life" because I'm not sure I'm convinced that what is represented to me as absolute abjection -- the image of Holocaust survivors' skeletal bodies for Agamben, or seeign the iconic panhandler in an urban...
  • I suppose it's no help now, but for the timeouts: pushing the "back" button in your browser will return you to your comment.  The rest: I need a second to think. 
  • Where I think these concepts might help to understand OOB is to begin to provide a framework for examining a lot of content and a very layered manifestation of "the archive" (the tangible kind). A lot of the archive theory I have looked at...
  • The good thing about this post is that next to these readings, anything at all that considers the archive a tangible collection of artifacts or records, any literary theory that deals with testimony as a genre or document, will be a breeze, no...
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  • "The sexualization of girls" (Gail Dines' version, which I think is close to Ariel Levy's, but more shrill) did come up in this discussion about OOB. I don't think anyone would object to you saying Bratz dolls are awful -- though we might have...
  • Last night, I had the extreme privilege of sitting down for a tasty dinner and long chat about problems with my archive content with a handful of feminist experts and activists.  A menstruation-fixated vampire isn't really all that...
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    • Mark A. McCutcheon August 8, 2012 - 4:07pm

      Looks like you got some good, useful keywords, as well as solid (and face-to-face!) support from a strong local research network - that's priceless.

      If, as you say, there's virtually no scholarship on OOB in general, then that means there's a piece crying out to be written on the reactionary politics of OOB in its moment as a pointedly - even pugilistically - provocative riposte to the anti-sex feminism of Off Our Backs and the landmark Barnard conference. What would make such a piece so timely now is the considerably more conservative cultural climate today, which the events of 1984 could only gesture towards: a climate of hyper-sexualized youth (the "raunch culture" of "female chauvinist pigs" - sorry, I still do think that problematic has some purchase on pop culture, so long as they keep making shit like the Bratz dolls and Girls Gone Wild), but one regulated by strident heteronormativity and homophobia, not to mention far more repressive laws governing cultural production and representation.

    • sarah beth August 8, 2012 - 9:28pm

      "The sexualization of girls" (Gail Dines' version, which I think is close to Ariel Levy's, but more shrill) did come up in this discussion about OOB. I don't think anyone would object to you saying Bratz dolls are awful -- though we might have said for the heteronormative and essentializing performance of femininity rather than because they're "sexy" -- and The Scandelles did a Girls Gone Wild parody that involved dressing a woman in a Tigger costume (http://homocinema.web.iq.pl/plakaty/4434.jpg) which I don't really get but it wasn't a rejection of the concept by any means -- but the analysis was mostly about how fighting the "sexualization of girls" presumes girls (and other little queermos) don't already have sexualities. So we all thought that the imposition of adult fantasies -- including fantasies of "purity" -- on childrenwas a problem, but generally agreed that it was alright for kids to have sexual fantasies like the ones in OOB and for adult women, who were fighting the stigma that their fantasies had been imposed on them by pop culture or childhood abuse or whatever, to talk about how their fantasies developed as children. The question I still had, though, is whether OOB is really that straightforward a testimony on actual experience or memory, or whether the literariness of the texts indicates that they're still very much the creations of adults fantasizing, and in doing so, rewriting, childhood subjectivities.

      The rest of my ambivalence is around some of the "extreme" contexts referenced. Feminists really were vicious to each other, and "sex-positive" feminists faced, as evidenced at the Barnard conference, extreme forms of censorship for choosing to focus on possibilities for sexual pleasure instead of on how to limit sexual danger. But the feminists on the other side of the "wars" were also reacting to extremes, and the greater proportion of the women setting up shelters and rape crisis centres were not a well-funded, well-supported group with an easy road ahead of them. The radical feminist movement, via the shelter system, certainly kept me and other women and people I loved alive in the late 80s and early 90s. And they did it in a cultural climate where marital rape had only recently been legal in Canada, and the cops really did leave women alone in hotel rooms with no money, with or without their kids, so they could "cool down" and go back to the husbands who might have tried to kill them only hours earlier. What the man-hating, sex-hating radical feminists were doing was extreme, and what they were up against was extreme. (Women from a shelter in BC once helped my mother break in through a bedroom window to kidnap me and one of my brothers while our father blocked the front door, thinking she couldn't get in. She later returned to the home to avoid a custody battle that she would have lost, and did eventually lose in Ontario, but the act itself was dangerous, and vital, and truly radical in a system that didn't otherwise give a shit about women. Um, and also: my mother = not to be trifled with.)

      How that got diverted from actually addressing violence to screaming at other feminists about nipple clamps and pursuing a culture of violence against trans women and prostitutes is beyond me, but they weren't just hysterical nutjobs, and they weren't making violence against women up just to cockblock all the fun feminists. One of the dinner people told me the weird collection of issues -- trans rights, porn, and bdsm -- isn't arbitrary, like I thought it was, it's about policing deviance, but I don't follow the reasoning that takes radical feminism from addressing violence, which can definitely be done at the same time as exploring possibilities for pleasure, to policing deviance. 

    • Mark A. McCutcheon August 10, 2012 - 5:03pm

      "How that got diverted from actually addressing violence to screaming at other feminists about nipple clamps and pursuing a culture of violence against trans women and prostitutes is beyond me"

      Certainly - it sounds very much like a proverbial case of fiddling while Rome burns...

      Point about imposition of adult fantasies on children's subjectivities: well taken.

  • sarah beth uploaded the file Still from "Give Piece of Ass a Chance" August 8, 2012 - 3:23pm
    Dir. Bruce LaBruce (2007)
  • sarah beth uploaded the file OOB excerpt August 8, 2012 - 3:18pm
  • The "diary" was intended for distribution at the 1982 Barnard Conference on Sexuality that included information on conference events, organizers' experiences, political writings and artwork. After complaints from Women Against Pornography, Barnard...